so i was going to write a blog about confrontation and how there is a serious lack of it in the church
i know this because i have been doing it for years and it has often felt like a very lonely, deserted spot to set out your picnic basket
in a church congregation situation with the majority of people feeling the same thing, but everyone too afraid to speak up, or simply too lazy, and so, ok i’ll do it again (and then half of the majority of people suddenly don’t feel that way any more, most remain silent, while some even come out suddenly for the other side)
or else in a one-on-one situation (or a lot of the time one-on-two cos it is often couples who are needing a gentle correctional word in love) everyone is happily gossipping about the situation behind the person’s (or persons’) back and yet it will usually be me who steps in and takes a hit (cos let’s be honest, no-one likes being told they are wrong and so even when it goes well and ends up positively there is still pretty much always a sense of you’re-the-bad-guy feeling or belief)
i’ve pissed off church leaders and i’ve even lost (on a few odd occasions, and they turned out to be pretty odd occasions) friends on account of choosing to fight for good in someone else’s life instead of simply burying my head in the sand ostrich-style and letting them reach out and touch the hot plate on the stove…
[and let’s be honest, i have gotten it wrong on occasion, maybe many occasions, altho my intent was always 100% good, i have erred in the way or the tone or the amount of love conveyed/received and have hopefully learnt my lessons along the way]
it’s the d.n.a. of God that says He loves you so much even as you are (dirty, broken, bruised, sinful, needy, hurting, disfunctional, a lousy reflection of Him)
but it’s also the d.n.a. of God that says He loved you so much that he refuses to leave you as you are and so He always prods and encourages and directs and creates opportunity for and grows (and a lot of the time uses people to do that) you…
‘wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses’ – proverbs 27.6
so what does that all have to do with Koran burning? (surfed the net and found three different spellings and not sure which is more accepted cos they are all everywhere)
well, if you are living on some different planet, then you are unaware of a small cult [i use the word ‘cult’ where everyone else has been using the word ‘church’ because i don’t believe their actions resemble much that is churchlike in terms of how i understand the community of Jesus followers to be] called the dove world outreach center, located in gainesville, florida, who have vowed to burn a whole bunch of Korans to mark saturday’s anniversary of the 11 september attacks as they remember the almost 3000 people killed by al-quaeda hijackers (of which a whole bunch were muslim people working in the twin towers, just by the way)
and i bet you there are people in crazy man terry jones’ ‘church’ who know that what he is planning is wrong… i’ll bet you there are friends or family members of terry jones who think what he is planning is absurd and against the “love your enemies and bless those who persecute you” mantra of Jesus…
but is there confrontation? in love? is there a wound from a friend? or are there a bunch of scared or apathetic people willing to let a potentially tragedy-enducing situation carry on, because they refuse to be the one to stand up and be counted?
the crusades… apartheid… slavery and the ku klux klan… qur’an-burning…
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” [edmund burke]
speak the Truth in Love, absolutely…
…but the Truth MUST be spoken.
[post script: so in case i was too subtle, i am saying that i think this idea of burning korans is ridiculous, unloving, completely dangerous bordering on or more likely over insane and that this man calling himself a pastor, heading up what he calls a church is totally misguided and not acting in a Jesus-following way at all and should be stopped/rebuked/thrown in a padded room of some type]
[p.p.s i completely dont understand your confusion – i thort my stand was pretty direct – i even post-scripted my stand even more cos someone else felt i was being a bit waffly – i think its a dangerous ridiculous un-Jesuslike lack of love act which is going to hurt a lot of people and bring no-one any closer to God… yes?]
Help me. I don’t understand the point you are making. Are you suggesting that they (the weird little maniac cult) are being confrontational, or that we should stand up loudly against them and what they are doing? Are you suggesting that they (weird little cult) are expressing the uncomfortable but shared secret feelings that others are afraid to express? Sorry, Brett, I find this post a bit dangerous. Dangerous because it is a bit waffly. Be clear. This stuff is totally, unquestionably unacceptable. It needs to subtle introduction, no justification, no discussion.
That should read ‘no’ subtle introduction.
This guy just pissed me off!
http://baristabruce.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/in-jesus-name-hate-bigotry-racism-violence/
um, i thort i was being pretty specific – i called his church a cult, i referred to him as a crazy man and the blog focus was that there are people who know he is a loony but are not saying/doing anything to stop him – so the stand up loudly against what they are doing and oppose them one.
Could not have said it better… NICE!!!! 🙂
i understand that burning the Quran is on the lunacy fringe of protest action but even without the burning of stuff (ok maybe candles), protesting against muslims or any other homosapien created in God’s image sounds like an un-following of Jesus. Didn’t He suffer (in love) for the Jews and the Gentiles ?
i agree with brett that NOT rebuking/speaking out against any form of hate against anybody isn’t ayoba. if we dont, the rocks and stones will cry out ! (lets not be upstaged by inanimate objects. that will just be embarrassing 🙂
Hi Brett
I am left a bit confused about your position on the Koran burning. Are you also confused.
I did hear that this statement was designed to reach the radicals and was not particularly aimed at the religion. But this is radical.
Please give us a clearer statement on your position.
Hi Brett
OK. Saw your PS.
If we could find an equally radical but perhaps unambiguous way of protesting against the twin towers attack that would be great.
Even better would be if Christians had the guts to be as radical for Jesus.
Most of us don’t even read our Bibles. So we could just as well burn them to make a statement.
I love this guy’s zeal. But if the bell has a crack it send out an uncertain message and I think that is what is happening here.
Lets be clear. I love Jesus. He is Lord. But He died for me and rose again to give me LIFE. Now that is worth burning something about. Or if someone can show us a better way!!!
Hey Brett
I love reading your blogs (surprisingly, for a passionate and paradoxically spiritual atheist like myself, but that’s another discussion…) I read them to see your thought and conviction shining through. Which they do. A little BUT though… Please, please can you try to use sentences? You’re muddying up your writing by making it an endless swamp without even the occasional capital letter, comma or fullstop… I know there is an informal internet-blog-universe colloquial writing zone that loves that shit, but really you’re just making it harder for the meaning to shine through.
LG
aw lisa, tx a lot, really cool that you like reading my stuff
wow, what a huge ‘but’ though, um not yours, the comment… i like to think of it as me bending the english language to my will as well as personalised style (like lack of caps except with key words) and generally try to write like i speak…
urgh, will give it some serious thort though, cos i think you have some strong point about the meaning, tx for the comment, much appreciate!
I like the way you think, Brett….good point made and very well put!
Great article Brett, very challenging for me because I am inclined to avoid those confrontations at times. So thanks!
On a completely unrelated side note does Jesus have mantra’s ???? I find the use of that word in relation to Jesus rather odd.
thankx Martyn
i wouldn’t get tripped up over the terminology – here’s a cool definition i found for it among others:
A mantra is a sound, syllable, word, or group of words that are considered capable of “creating transformation”
and loving your enemies and blessing those who persecute you certainly does seem to be a group of words capable of creating transformation don’t you think?
If you believe that the words in themselves have that power (which is the Hindu philosophy) then sure!
i suspect you are just being pedantic now cos i’m sure you’re sure i don’t believe that and i seriously doubt anyone would misunderstand me to mean that. but i don’t. love.
Lol! No, just said that tongue in cheek. I don’t think its worth arguing about, I was just curios about why you use that word. For a person coming out of Hinduism, New Age, etc., that term might be very misleading.
ah, the olde tongue in cheek – yes, i thort about that as i wrote it and knew someone would say something but seriously didn’t think it was serious enuff to thesaurise so hopefully we have straightened those people out now anyways… yay.